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Violence and the Future of Marvel

By The Hollywood Reporter

As Netflix ends its mature Marvel TV shows and the looming 'Black Widow' is confirmed to be PG-13, it's time to assess if gore really fits into the MCU anywayRead full story

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  • Nothing has satisfied the same itch as ‘Logan.’ As in, an “adult” superhero film. Which doesn’t necessarily mean an R-rated film. You can have maturity, a deep character study, subtle and engaging filmmaking without explicit language or graphic scenes.

  • Entertainment is not measured by a parental rating. We can all name many R rated films that stunk., as well as G rated films that were enjoyable. Not sure how this is really news.

  • We should reassess violence and film ratings. Violence is violence, it is living things getting hurt, wounded or dying. PG-13 creates a distorted view of violence by stripping away all the emotions entangled with violence for the scenery/action. It desensitises us to violence and normalises it. Surely this cannot be right. There's a reason why real violence shocks us. We shouldn't allow ourselves and the kids to be numb to violence.

  • Although DC is often regarded as the grittier of the two major comic book franchises, Marvel comics found major success with some very dark storylines. I would be surprised if they can avoid adding an R-rated continuity to their current MCU. Not least of all because the current cinema/box office reasons for having a predominantly PG-13 release are quickly disappearing thanks to video streaming services.

  • It should ALL be R rated. These are stories about people who fight wars for a living. Not small bullshit wars either, but wars that if lost would result in the end of humanity. You can bet a real life iron man or black widow would be dropping the F-bomb left and right. Speaking of bombs.. when they blow up they tear people apart, blood and bits go all over everything. We also got a guy whose "superpower" is that he has 6 frigging knives coming out of his fists.. unless he's only going to use them

    It should ALL be R rated. These are stories about people who fight wars for a living. Not small bullshit wars either, but wars that if lost would result in the end of humanity. You can bet a real life iron man or black widow would be dropping the F-bomb left and right. Speaking of bombs.. when they blow up they tear people apart, blood and bits go all over everything. We also got a guy whose "superpower" is that he has 6 frigging knives coming out of his fists.. unless he's only going to use them for opening cans of soup.. R-rated.. I loved the most recent Punisher version. It was insanely bloody. Just like it would be if there was a guy running around murdering hundreds of bad guys. The only thing missing.. was the F-bomb. Evidently it's okay for my 17 year old kid to see people's skulls being smashed in to the point that you can see their brains falling out onto the sidewalk, but hearing "fuck" is crossing a line.. weird right? I say do both, shoot a full length R version for the grownups, and then cut and reshoot whatever needs to be done to make a PG13 version as well. Everyone is happy.

  • Violence without gore seems to be the modus operandi with most superhero films, and it's working. In the future, I feel this genre is going to stick with that and benefit from it.

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