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Facebook talked privacy, Google actually built it

By TechCrunch

Mark Zuckerberg: “The future is private”. Sundar Pichai: ~The present is private~. While both CEO’s made protecting user data a central theme of their conference keynotes this month, Facebook’s proRead full story

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  • Please do not be fooled. Google has implemented new privacy restrictions for third parties - which is good - but continues to invade privacy itself. At the same time that it cuts off third party trackers, Google embeds its own trackers. As noted by the Harvard scholar Shoshana Zuboff, products like Street View, Android, Pokémon Go (incubated at Google), and Google Home exist to convert human experience into data that can be used to influence behavior.

  • Great to see Google means business on this front. It is also a reflection of how agile Googles business is in turning around change to their platforms and products compared to FB. Agility is absolutely critical in an environment where customer perception and expectations are evolving rapidly and nobody has the patience for lengthy turnarounds to fix fundamental issues on trust!

  • Let's not for one second be fooled by Google's marketing department. Doing better than Facebook does not equate to doing good. Google, like Facebook, makes money through surveillance capitalism. Irrespective of their supposedly privacy enlightenment, their financial incentive to accumulate user data remains intact. Unless this incentive is squashed, they won't give back the power to us.

    The reality is that Google, Facebook and the like are just too big to regulate. They must be broken up.

  • Dr Gail Barnes
    Dr Gail BarnesPartner at Personify LLC

    For Facebook, privacy is a talking point meant to boost confidence in sharing, deter regulators, and repair its battered image. For Google, privacy is functional, going hand-in-hand with on-device data processing to make features faster and more widely accessible.

  • James Cakmak
    James CakmakEntrepreneur | Tech Analyst

    It’s tough to believe anything without a commitment to transparency into how data is collected and used. Moreover there isn’t even a clear definition on what privacy even means. It should mean to ability to separate your networks - both private, professional, and across groups - with user controlled crossover of information in between.

  • Kudos to both companies for bringing privacy to the forefront. Facebook needs to step up its game and Google needs to continue the work. Remember, this is a marathon, not a sprint. We’re still miles away from the finish line with regards to who will truly sacrifice revenue for the utility of privacy.

  • Bensu Aydın
    Bensu Aydın

    If Google bought Facebook, would you still be concerned about privacy issues? I would be.

  • David Schaaf
    David SchaafDirector, Data Engineering

    I find the whole discussion around privacy fascinating, but also think we need to take a step back and think of the implications. First, why do we have this situation in the first place? The reality is "free" as a business model won out and thus the implication is that something like advertising has to fill the void for revenue and by its very nature requires data on its viewers to be successful (regardless of the channel). Second, new laws that attempt to address privacy are tremendously expensive

    I find the whole discussion around privacy fascinating, but also think we need to take a step back and think of the implications. First, why do we have this situation in the first place? The reality is "free" as a business model won out and thus the implication is that something like advertising has to fill the void for revenue and by its very nature requires data on its viewers to be successful (regardless of the channel). Second, new laws that attempt to address privacy are tremendously expensive for traditional companies to implement and are a significant new "tax" for those companies. Finally, the promise of AI can only be realized through vast data collection. It still may be the right thing to address privacy concerns, but let's be sure that we consider these three things before fully embracing the crusade of the privacy hawks.

  • Weiyee IN
    Weiyee INChief Strategy Officer

    On device data processing and on device machine learning are two significant technological breakthroughs that do make and impact on privacy. However in the case of Google, there are still a myriad of different ethical issues behind machine learning and artificial intelligence that need to be addressed. Facebook remains rhetoric until they are able to actually execute on privacy above and beyond a prowess at reducing penalties and fines from the FTC.

  • Reads like a Google puff piece. Surely there are some advances in privacy, but their essential business model hasn't changed... And neither has Facebook's.

  • True privacy and personal data ownership are still vague and not sure how much any tech giants are ready on this topic.

  • Chris McCauley
    Chris McCauleySoftware Engineer

    Privacy issues is very sensitive now. Big IT company have to provide controlling methods.

    Facebook changed their strategy. I'm concerned that new their strategy will be not accepted by most users.

  • Shogo Takagi
    Shogo TakagiSolutions Consultant at LINE Corporation

    Too late. “He said Messenger and Instagram Direct will become encrypted”

  • Jason Kuang
    Jason Kuang

    Facebook used to pride itself with the mission to connect everyone. After a series of scandals I realized connecting everyone is exactly what a phone does.

  • Barclay Quatremain
    Barclay Quatremain

    Interesting, considering most of the commenters talk about privacy being invaded!!!!! I having agrees to the terms and conditions of use, allow Google to track my whereabouts using it's map app and satellite coverage. I've nothing to hide, I find it useful to justify the various things I do for work, the experience and time while I report real life situations. Especially knowing that if I did want my privacy, I wouldn't use social media, email, GPS or anything.

    Don't be fooled to think that ONLY

    Interesting, considering most of the commenters talk about privacy being invaded!!!!! I having agrees to the terms and conditions of use, allow Google to track my whereabouts using it's map app and satellite coverage. I've nothing to hide, I find it useful to justify the various things I do for work, the experience and time while I report real life situations. Especially knowing that if I did want my privacy, I wouldn't use social media, email, GPS or anything.

    Don't be fooled to think that ONLY FB and Google are watching you and that you are safe from any surveillance!!!!!

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