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Facebook refuses to delete fake Pelosi video spread by Trump supporters

Facebook refuses to delete fake Pelosi video spread by Trump supporters

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  • Give an inch, eventually you'll give a mile. Glad YouTube did something about it, with political discourse being so toxic and divisive due to stoking emotional triggers—especially with misinformation—like "hating on liberals" no matter what so I'll believe whatever is thrown at me on social media that's

    Give an inch, eventually you'll give a mile. Glad YouTube did something about it, with political discourse being so toxic and divisive due to stoking emotional triggers—especially with misinformation—like "hating on liberals" no matter what so I'll believe whatever is thrown at me on social media that's shows "libtards are getting owned."

    Facebook lacking moral clarity here, correctly informed political discourse is important more now than ever. They need to address this slight 'misinformation' play on the video, it's sometimes not about the content but the intent of the content.

    Example: obstruction can indeed be prosecuted without an underlying crime — and has been in the past, notably in the case of Martha Stewart.

    You can obstruct justice even if a prosecutor ultimately finds you were not guilty of committing the crime that was the focus of the underlying investigation.

    Like here, clearly misinformation happened and can lead down a darker path as we have already seen. So the intent of the content and *how* it's used and distorted can be a big problem. Allowing such an edited political video of a government official seemingly taken out of context without clearly stating it's edited or that it's a video making fun of said politician can reach individuals who believe such video to be "real" which then goes back to Facebook's problem of JUNK on its platform.

    So how do users know what's real or what's not if I like Mr. Guiliani, want to own the libs, and such edited videos posted by people I like are being shared in ingenuine ways just make me more triggered, toxic, and partisan against libtards.

    Then you'll see why political discourse is getting so divided and toxic—mostly driven by the far right. Thanks Facebook for now saying it's fair game to do more of these videos and they start testing you in so many different ways. But more importantly, since it triggered the "hate libtards" emotion gene strain, users and everyone who thinks like those users will share this all over Facebook which probably makes Facebook more money due to increased content being shared which = more DAUs.

    Yes those users will be more engaged for a short time, but as quality of content drops it'll be followed by quality of users dropping over time with it until you're left with low quality users.

    Profit over purpose means you'll win short term but lose long term.

    Can't wait for something better, a smarter, and morally stronger company/platform to replace Facebook.

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  • Facebook has learned nothing about the dire consequences of political operatives using its platform to unleash disinformation. It’s appalling that once again FB’s leadership is choosing profits over protecting its own users from fake news!

  • Here we go. When push comes to shove, the Tech Bros will always, always, choose profit over all else. They don't want to appear like they're hating on Republicans or the right in general and if the price to pay is misinformation, so be it. Big Tech needs to be broken up. Our future depends on it.

  • Hugely disappointing decision. Maintaining the video online when the video is demonstrably proven to be false sets a horrible precedent as we sit on the cusp of a revolution in video falsification.

    Technologies are rapidly advancing that can make any person living or dead, real or fictional, appear

    Hugely disappointing decision. Maintaining the video online when the video is demonstrably proven to be false sets a horrible precedent as we sit on the cusp of a revolution in video falsification.

    Technologies are rapidly advancing that can make any person living or dead, real or fictional, appear to have said and done the same things as appear in the historical record with almost no means of distinguishing the forgery.

    Social media will be the prime means of delivering these false videos. We are already seeing this. The motivations for doing so may vary from ignorantly benign to absolutely malicious, but once they get going it will be a Pandora's Box.

    The only way to address it at the distribution level is to start showing a firm hand on demonstrably false videos now. The trust in video that will be lost by the public writ large presents an enormous blow to our ability to communicate as a species.

    What happens when we as human beings can no longer put faith in our primary method of communications that rely so heavily on our primary sense? What happens to our trust and the strength of our communal bonds when part of our brain now has to constantly remind us not to trust our eyes and question the validity of the information being shared with us by even those closest to us?

    The precedent here is too important for Facebook to keep pretending that it's just running a local newspaper stand. It's time for their leadership to grow up and start taking responsibility for the beast they created, whether they want to admit it or not.

  • Massively hypocritical!

    Whatever happened to creating a platform free from Hate speech, vile, politically charged content, and fake spamming??

  • I don’t know about the “adding additional context” piece, but I’d like to see public shaming by the platform. Show the video with a large red border, maybe even a low contrast effect, and large text next the sharer that indicates that “this person shared this video which we know has been altered” – and

    I don’t know about the “adding additional context” piece, but I’d like to see public shaming by the platform. Show the video with a large red border, maybe even a low contrast effect, and large text next the sharer that indicates that “this person shared this video which we know has been altered” – and then stop any resharing or commenting — or take anyone who shared or commented or reshared and lock down their abilities for a few days.

  • This is a no win situation (created by Facebook). There’s no entity that can govern this properly but the sooner FB unloads it on a third party (ideally government), the better off they are.

  • Shocking....not. Facebook is a breeding ground of false information so it’s only natural they wouldn’t remove the video. Trash content for a trash company and platform. This is a prime example of why everyone should delete his/her Facebook account. Deleted mine over a year ago and haven’t had a desire to go back.

  • Some of the comments in Quartz about this article are amazing. Looking at this from outside the US, it does make sense. How many videos of trump are posted on FB which have been altered in some form or another. I’m sure there’s likely 1,000 others now since people are angry about this one.

    Better yet

    Some of the comments in Quartz about this article are amazing. Looking at this from outside the US, it does make sense. How many videos of trump are posted on FB which have been altered in some form or another. I’m sure there’s likely 1,000 others now since people are angry about this one.

    Better yet, when does a slow down of a video to 75% constitute something that needs to be taken down. Is GoPro going to be threatened now because they’re showing slow mo videos that make people look like they can fly?

    The answer to fake news is between your ears. Not on FB.

  • Deleting has its own evils too and at a step from censorship. A warning sign mentioning it is fake lets people know and learn what is fake and will help the victims more than the authors. The light over the shadow tells the world what's hidden.

  • Woke until it threatens the bottom line. Which is cowardly.

  • This is a really interesting issue. Facebook stated that the decision to leave the video up was the result of striking a balance between free speech and acceptable media. This raises the question for me, at what point is it up to social media provides to police the content the public sees? Where does

    This is a really interesting issue. Facebook stated that the decision to leave the video up was the result of striking a balance between free speech and acceptable media. This raises the question for me, at what point is it up to social media provides to police the content the public sees? Where does the onus lie in responsibly deciding whether or not to believe a video - to me, the incessant calling for these social media outlets to censor speech in the name of preventing public confusion implies that the people are sheep and incapable of reaching logical conclusions. Although social media outlets should be allowed to moderate what appears on their platforms, it is ultimately up to the individual person to think critically and take some responsibility, instead of being a mindless consumer

  • Ok, I understand that moderating false content is a monumental task, but once you discover the truth, the very least you should do is alert people about it. Removing it won't help, because it will just pop up somewhere else.

  • Facebook has no moral compass so no one should be surprised about this.

  • Well, this will just add fuel to the fire, for people who just can’t except that their MAGA President is indeed a total looney tune. You know, the guy who calls everything ‘fake news’ because it’s true...I know, the truth hurts...

  • #Facebook's explanation is in itself DISINFORMATION sounds like the ignorant garble of a 17yo kid describing why a KKK robe worn to school as a Halloween costume is "freedom of speech".

  • That was why I left Facebook! Brain rot!!

  • Ok, that's it for me and Facebook

  • Facebook: Bad for Democracy

  • Instead of censorship how about an official disclaimer watermarked on the video, "fake news" (or some such). Let's be real though, Chairman Zuck could care less. He has been absolutely corrupted by wealth and power.

  • Fake Tweet & FB...take it down FB or else am leaving too...

  • Facebook - when will you ever do the right thing?

  • It may be time to have punitive incentives for crap like this. Usually, when you caught doing bad or stupid things there are consequences. Just seems like the last decade there's been more of a focus on justifying why it's ok or "understanding" rather then punishing. As an educator, in my limited perspective

    It may be time to have punitive incentives for crap like this. Usually, when you caught doing bad or stupid things there are consequences. Just seems like the last decade there's been more of a focus on justifying why it's ok or "understanding" rather then punishing. As an educator, in my limited perspective, I've seen a trend where the general expectation of students is that there are no consequences for missing deadlines, swearing in class, etc. It really doesn't help set an example when everything from a Nations leader or the social media platforms they are immersed in are doing the exact opposite of what we expect of good citizens. Profits aren't everything. Start acting like rational human beings.

  • Those videos should be left circulating. The most useful point in that article was in the last paragraph. Deleting fake from the internet is never going to be possible and attempting to do it in this scale will just encourage more people to believe everything they see.

  • Yawn. Facebook can't be the arbiter of all this stuff, unreasonable, impossible, and pointless. If you are mad, do what I do. I don't get my news or anything of substance from Facebook.

  • There amazing 9999-1 ratio of response here goes to show that leaving the video up, which was posted as a joke originally not that Democrats can take one, shows that removing it is unnecessary.

    The left who stood by Holder and Lynch and Obama and Lerner going crazy because Trump wants to RELEASE THE

    There amazing 9999-1 ratio of response here goes to show that leaving the video up, which was posted as a joke originally not that Democrats can take one, shows that removing it is unnecessary.

    The left who stood by Holder and Lynch and Obama and Lerner going crazy because Trump wants to RELEASE THE INFORMATION LEADING UP TO the Russia investigation is stomach turning. Never has transparency been so transparently evident in it's proof against Obama's administration.

    Let the cards fall where they may!

  • The more important issue is to look at the overall governance and ethics. Fundamentally what are the best practices and what are the ethics that govern those practices. If indeed everything is done without clear definition of policies and can be completely arbitrary, that needs to be considered and evaluated.

  • Oh my goodness. Facebook has gone down the Dark side? Oooh. Ooh. Well, Of course it has.

  • Facebook has morphed into FAKEBOOK

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