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Socialism Is More Popular Than Donald Trump

By The Nation

The president is campaigning against socialism. New polling suggests he is failingRead full story

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  • Do you agree with these statements:

    I deserve to be renumerated based on the hard work I do;

    I want to have a say in the future of the company I work hard for;

    I want to contribute to a system that ensures that everyone, me included, if in hardship, in hospital, in need of help, will be looked after

    Do you agree with these statements:

    I deserve to be renumerated based on the hard work I do;

    I want to have a say in the future of the company I work hard for;

    I want to contribute to a system that ensures that everyone, me included, if in hardship, in hospital, in need of help, will be looked after.

    Yes? Congratulations, you are a socialist.

  • If you don’t put a categorizing party name or other labels on policies (i.e., don’t label them ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive’ or ‘socialist’) but simply explain what they do, it turns out most Americans favor progressive and socialist policies.

    Everyone should have access to healthcare. Workers should

    If you don’t put a categorizing party name or other labels on policies (i.e., don’t label them ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive’ or ‘socialist’) but simply explain what they do, it turns out most Americans favor progressive and socialist policies.

    Everyone should have access to healthcare. Workers should have rights, should have a say in their work, and should enjoy the fruit of their labor (no toiling away just to make the boss rich while given a pittance). Everyone who wants to work should have a good job available to them, one that can support a decent level of living. We need high quality and free education: preschool, K-12, public colleges, and trade schools, as well as adult continuing education and retraining. No one should have to worry where there next meal comes from.

    Why should we invest in these things? Because they all make *all* of our lives better—both individually and as a society.

    Capitalism isn’t doing that. It’s about time that our Government work on our behalf, instead of against us.

  • I always struggle with broad statements being applied to polls when the validity of the polling method isn’t known.

  • Bernie Sanders campaign material...

    Everyone likes the idea of fairness and equality, no one likes to have to pay for it...

  • At this point, I'd say gout is more popular amongst the more intelligent of the American electorate.

  • The media, and today social media as well, tend to enjoy putting labels on things oh, so that they can better classify content and incite more consumption and interaction. Before everyone in the world criticizes capitalism or embraces socialism, or any of the more radical ideologies, they really should

    The media, and today social media as well, tend to enjoy putting labels on things oh, so that they can better classify content and incite more consumption and interaction. Before everyone in the world criticizes capitalism or embraces socialism, or any of the more radical ideologies, they really should do much more homework on what they are willingly labeling themselves as. And even more importantly they need to recognize that they are being classified by the media, and they are helping to perpetuate pigeonholing.

  • “That’s right—after months of attacking socialism, Trump came into mid-May with a 42 percent approval rating while socialism scored a 43.”

    I will be a bit more curious how these numbers break closer to a meaningful election.

    Though the problem with democratic socialism, historically at least, has usually

    “That’s right—after months of attacking socialism, Trump came into mid-May with a 42 percent approval rating while socialism scored a 43.”

    I will be a bit more curious how these numbers break closer to a meaningful election.

    Though the problem with democratic socialism, historically at least, has usually been the democratic part. More often than not, few can agree on what the democratic portion actually represents. Is it the method of fair, democratic elections, appointing representative leaders, continuing that exercise every few years - possessing mechanisms to properly check executive powers, and upholding civil rights etc.?

    Or is the democratic portion some vaguely defined concept about all people owning the means of production? Their control dictated by a small, unelected clique claiming to rule in the interest of the many? Just because the word democratic is part of the name, doesn’t always denote genuine democratic intentions. Lest one forgets, even the Bolsheviks belonged to the Russian Socialist Democratic Labor Party.

    In addition to that, what happens when a so-called Democratic Socialist president runs into a GOP controlled Congress? Or more moderate members of the greater Democratic Party? To what extent are they willing to compromise their socialist values, in cooperation with an opposition to fulfill their democratic obligations? Many of those in the last century claiming to be democratic socialists did not take to opposition very well at all. Official single-party rule in the name of the people and what have you. Though they’re not alone in that fact, they’re no exception either.

    One can claim the current US democratic socialist movement has nothing in common with their more notorious predecessors, groups also claiming to be democratic socialists. Surely the EU will be noted as a working example ad nauseam. Yet whatever the reality of that, successfully dispelling US democratic socialist’s perceived association with earlier totalitarian or authoritarian predecessors will be key to their rise to power. However, it will take more than simply stating good intentions, or the thrum of slogans akin to “Peace, Land, and Bread.”

  • Socialism was popular among my Economics professors when I graduated from college in 1971. It looks good on paper but not so when you live under it. When I was stationed in West Germany there were hundreds (if not thousands) of people that fled Socialist East Germany for Capitalist West Germany. Fleeing

    Socialism was popular among my Economics professors when I graduated from college in 1971. It looks good on paper but not so when you live under it. When I was stationed in West Germany there were hundreds (if not thousands) of people that fled Socialist East Germany for Capitalist West Germany. Fleeing East Germans had to get past armed guards, mine fields, machine gun posts and attack dogs to escape to the West. They still tried to escape. They hated Socialism.

  • polling also predicted that hillary would win by a large margin... so take these “polls” with a grain of salt

  • Where was that article that just came out about how Harvard is rethinking how we teach economics... ??

    Poll = opinion of those polled

    Data = information that can tell us what's actually happening

    But sure, let's roll with this sensationalizing headline bent either to invigorate the Anti-Trump base OR

    Where was that article that just came out about how Harvard is rethinking how we teach economics... ??

    Poll = opinion of those polled

    Data = information that can tell us what's actually happening

    But sure, let's roll with this sensationalizing headline bent either to invigorate the Anti-Trump base OR attempting to influence the capitalists, Classic Liberals, and free thinkers that Trump is so awful that people think Socialism is better.

  • I was a Democratic Socialist in the 1960s when I was 17 years old, but even at the height of the anti-war movement, I felt like John the Baptist, as a lone voice in the wilderness. But at that time the social safety net put in place by FDR was still expanding. Now, over 50 years later, all the young

    I was a Democratic Socialist in the 1960s when I was 17 years old, but even at the height of the anti-war movement, I felt like John the Baptist, as a lone voice in the wilderness. But at that time the social safety net put in place by FDR was still expanding. Now, over 50 years later, all the young people aren’t dropping out and tuning in, they are fighting back against the ever increasing inequality in America!

  • Haven’t we learned by now that polls mean nothing?

  • If socialism has been redefined and it's the new cool label for social responsibility then sure he is fighting socialism.

  • This is in fact the main issue to address while doing business outside your hometown: what kind of company or enterprise would I want to invest/enroll in, work for, get associated with, or become?

    The answers would make you recognize the hard work you’ve been doing and, thus far, the people surrounding

    This is in fact the main issue to address while doing business outside your hometown: what kind of company or enterprise would I want to invest/enroll in, work for, get associated with, or become?

    The answers would make you recognize the hard work you’ve been doing and, thus far, the people surrounding you will be available not by their saying but by their doing. Because there’s nothing more frustrating than acknowledge the painful fact that you are part of a complicated and lasting economic model that relies on the darkness from the top; therefore, the choices you have made across time just vanished: you didn’t choose your career, nor your work path; you have not any kind of decision to make or influence in, because from the beginning, the system was designed to actually not let you climb up in order for you to have an appropriate well fare.

    It is fair to work hard your entire life and by the time you have to retire, nor your company or business you’ve spent your life in, have nothing or little to do with your wellbeing in your final days?

    From my perspective, that’s fucked up, because you deserve dignity in every level, in every position you decide to develop yourself and, for God’s sake, because you dedicated your life investing your talent in that company. Or am I just being delusional?

    These kind of debates should be addressed quickly given the short period both capitalism and socialism have in leverage while corporations attempt to gain the best from both sides and pray that no one unveil the complicated landscape created at the so called end of the Cold War (which I think is related to coal, tied inevitably with industrial revolution).

    So, we have to think (while driving our very own life) what can we do successfully in order to change what is not doing the best for us, and by doing it trying not to harm what’s have been built in order for us to achieve greatness and a better place (world) to live in?

    Perhaps it’s complicated to answer, or perhaps the answer relies on a collaborative way of living.

  • Only historical illiterates would vote for Socialism. Just go back and read a little bit about the Soviet Union and their bunch of Eastern European puppet countries who suffered for so many years of this stupid and evil ideology

  • 42% support rate for trump and 47% of ppl saying ‘socialism isn’t bad’ are not necessarily correlated. It doesn’t mean among all people 47%support socialism INSTEAD of trump. And it doesn’t mean among the 42% trump supporters they don’t like or agree with socialism either. Anyway this title is confusing

    42% support rate for trump and 47% of ppl saying ‘socialism isn’t bad’ are not necessarily correlated. It doesn’t mean among all people 47%support socialism INSTEAD of trump. And it doesn’t mean among the 42% trump supporters they don’t like or agree with socialism either. Anyway this title is confusing and statistically incorrect.

  • If socialism is more popular it’s sad . Socialism doesn’t reward hard work , it’s popular because we are getting more lazy by the second. Most people that don’t have anything assumes that people with more was given to the people with something and that is not true at all most successful people process

    If socialism is more popular it’s sad . Socialism doesn’t reward hard work , it’s popular because we are getting more lazy by the second. Most people that don’t have anything assumes that people with more was given to the people with something and that is not true at all most successful people process things better and are more inclined to work on the things that the have nots are inclined to not work toward. The have nots may work hard by labor but they don’t process how that labor can make them more money. Capitalism awards the ones that go beyond the normal

  • Kinda like when Clinton was "winning" the polls? It's easy to bias a poll. Just call registered democrat voters over registered republican. Call 4 dems to every 1 repub. Guess what happens. The dems start "winning by a landslide" in the polls.

  • But the thing is ...the concept just doesn’t work to improve societies the way the cruel and cold capitalist system does......Maybe equality never meant true equality .....what if it meant equilibrium? ....and maybe fragmented and unfair societies with some sort of loose equilibrium are able to perform

    But the thing is ...the concept just doesn’t work to improve societies the way the cruel and cold capitalist system does......Maybe equality never meant true equality .....what if it meant equilibrium? ....and maybe fragmented and unfair societies with some sort of loose equilibrium are able to perform better than societies rooted in deep and inapplicable ideological shit

  • Well i will say to you, keep this country free, because, socialism is the last card, you will ever play, Trump may be bad, but he is an American born here, oh yes with a lot of money, but on the other hand, everybody that i know, since chilhood, is looking for a better life and of course, money too.

  • I am certain that Trump does not understand the meaning of socialism. What most people want is social democracy. And that works

  • As more and more people outgrow the superstitions of religion, they'll be able to get past their blind fear of the "s-word" and accept the value of cooperation.

  • The use of data and its interpretation has always been tweaked to support ones narrative. How about some transparency by including the raw data?

  • Social policy and socialism aren’t the same thing. Congratulations, articles like this will continue to confuse the populous even more about what they’re really asking for.

  • To me social es they stay home I work for them it like welfare middle American willpay for it mike harrington

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