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17-Year-Old Dutch Girl Who Was Raped as a Child Is Legally Euthanized

17-Year-Old Dutch Girl Who Was Raped as a Child Is Legally Euthanized

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  • It's come to my attention that the extent to which physicians were involved with Noa Pothoven's death is now a matter of some dispute as reflected in the correction ran by The Washington Post and others. I am personally monitoring the situation for clarification: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/05/an-anguished-dutch-teenager-who-was-raped-child-is-euthanized-her-request

    It's come to my attention that the extent to which physicians were involved with Noa Pothoven's death is now a matter of some dispute as reflected in the correction ran by The Washington Post and others. I am personally monitoring the situation for clarification: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/05/an-anguished-dutch-teenager-who-was-raped-child-is-euthanized-her-request/

    Even an article with the headline: "Media Misreports Dutch Teens Death" reports that doctors were involved in her elective end of life care: https://www.dw.com/en/media-misreport-dutch-teen-noa-pothovens-death-as-euthanasia/a-49064448

  • Every fiber of sensibility in humanity cries out for children like this. Hopefully she has found peace, but the precedent that descends upon society globally is even more alarming. Condoning euthanasia, even voluntary, is already a moral dilemma and ethical nightmare that very few are able to think through

    Every fiber of sensibility in humanity cries out for children like this. Hopefully she has found peace, but the precedent that descends upon society globally is even more alarming. Condoning euthanasia, even voluntary, is already a moral dilemma and ethical nightmare that very few are able to think through. But in our day and age, with the force multiplier effects of social media, the impact of child euthanasia becomes an ethical issue that needs to be addressed. Not to discount her trauma or pain, it is just worth thinking through the impact on society and children as a result of social networks. Parents are not able to monitor everything 24/7 in order to become supportive and non-judgmental and help their own children understand both the tragedy and the issues around euthanasia in a way that we don't see a ramp and trend in morbidity.

  • Noa Pothoven’s story is incredibly distressing because it feels so unnecessary. We can never feel the pain she feels, but it is so hard to believe there is nothing out there-no therapy, no drug, no system of belief-that can’t offer her some peace. Euthanasia, if it must exist, should be a last resort

    Noa Pothoven’s story is incredibly distressing because it feels so unnecessary. We can never feel the pain she feels, but it is so hard to believe there is nothing out there-no therapy, no drug, no system of belief-that can’t offer her some peace. Euthanasia, if it must exist, should be a last resort. For a 17 year old with so many abundant talents, it feels like a tragic first resort.

  • This story is so sad at so many levels. It seems that what has happened to this child is so ugly that she chose to die. Questions why she couldn't be helped why she couldn't be happy will never be answered.

  • I won’t discuss her decision, that’s hers to make and hers alone. Society has failed this girl, the social system has failed her too. We hear about this case because she is underage and not taking her life ‚normally‘ through suicide, but with the help of others. We hear about it because she wrote a book

    I won’t discuss her decision, that’s hers to make and hers alone. Society has failed this girl, the social system has failed her too. We hear about this case because she is underage and not taking her life ‚normally‘ through suicide, but with the help of others. We hear about it because she wrote a book. Imagine how many others are out there or were out there, who suffered a similar fate and just decided to commit suicide. #MeToo gave us a glimpse of victims and a part of their message was: Nobody believed them, nobody helped them, nobody faced the consequences. Any society, that allows sexual assaulters to sit on the Supreme Court or run the country has a serious issue. ‚Boys be boys‘ can no longer be a motto to raise the next generation of young men

  • Absolutely heartbreaking on so many levels but the checks they have in place with doctors seem to provide some comfort. I still think that there should be a minimum age requirement for euthanasia. SO many problems that can seem unsurmountable to teens are often looked back on by adults as being trivial

    Absolutely heartbreaking on so many levels but the checks they have in place with doctors seem to provide some comfort. I still think that there should be a minimum age requirement for euthanasia. SO many problems that can seem unsurmountable to teens are often looked back on by adults as being trivial. I obviously know that preventing teen euthanasia could result in a rise in suicide, but I think imposing an age floor of at least 25 would preclude some teens for opting for euthanasia. Regardless, the whole story still gives me chills.

  • I can’t believe euthanasia is legal for children in The Netherlands. It’s so easy to manipulate a child as a cover-up! I’m very pro-euthanasia and respect that young person’s decision but that strikes me as a toxic policy.

  • I have so many conflicting emotions about this.

    My heart is broken when anyone takes their own lives. But we do. My best friend did. My cousin did just last month. And like countless other friends... In one way or another.

    I know in my heart this girl could have been fixed with the right counseling

    I have so many conflicting emotions about this.

    My heart is broken when anyone takes their own lives. But we do. My best friend did. My cousin did just last month. And like countless other friends... In one way or another.

    I know in my heart this girl could have been fixed with the right counseling. Especially at 17.

    I counsel young adults that have been traumatized in this exact same way. And no I'm not saying that I could fix her. But I know the right counselor for her could.

    I'm just glad she's at peace.

  • I'm sorry, but W-T-F? What am I missing here? How is someone who's not legally allowed to drink, smoke or marry, but is allowed to take her life? This is just a kid, for christ sake. What is wrong with the people in healthcare and legal system allowing this? Shame on them and shame on the whole Dutch

    I'm sorry, but W-T-F? What am I missing here? How is someone who's not legally allowed to drink, smoke or marry, but is allowed to take her life? This is just a kid, for christ sake. What is wrong with the people in healthcare and legal system allowing this? Shame on them and shame on the whole Dutch society for abetting and/or allowing this nonsense.

  • So tragic for someone so young. We could argue that you can overcome thru treatment, but in the end its their decision as an adult. At least with euthanasia, they have a chance at public closure with loved ones, and must go thru a process. Maybe it's a failure of the safety net, our psychological treatments

    So tragic for someone so young. We could argue that you can overcome thru treatment, but in the end its their decision as an adult. At least with euthanasia, they have a chance at public closure with loved ones, and must go thru a process. Maybe it's a failure of the safety net, our psychological treatments or abilities, but the alternative for someone who has made the decision is worse. Agree or not, but people will find a way if they don't see any other way

  • RIP, Noa. So very, very sad.

  • Psychological pain is real. No one should be compelled to suffer. Amazing that the Dutch are even broaching this field.

  • This is basically suicide right? I say this without judgement, but it does give one the self-autonomy to not continue life once it’s been spoiled for you. May she rest well. I’m still shocked.

  • What a sad and frightening precedent...

  • What an incredibly sad story. This certainly shines a spotlight on a number of issues and moral dilemmas in the world today.

  • Did the push notification seriously say "unbearable"? Why was that word in quotes?

  • I think there are many times in my life when I may have made this choice from as early as 13 had it been part of our societal fabric. They never would’ve approved, I’m sure, and had intervened with the mental health system. Nothing that fuelled my intermittent willingness and quiet desire to stop fighting

    I think there are many times in my life when I may have made this choice from as early as 13 had it been part of our societal fabric. They never would’ve approved, I’m sure, and had intervened with the mental health system. Nothing that fuelled my intermittent willingness and quiet desire to stop fighting life compares with this young woman’s experience.

    I’ve met so many who fought so hard so long that the only thing holding them in life was guilt or some other thin thread. Here in Canada where Medical Assistance in Dying is legal, mental health doesn’t meet the criteria. In many cases that’s probably good - but I’m still convinced that it should be. At the very least under very specific conditions.

    I believe in absolute bodily autonomy. The only real right we have is domain over our own body. Unless I’m going to end up in jail or being detained for some legitimate legal reason, no one should be allowed to decide what I do with my meat suit. It’s mine. Yours is yours.

  • Disturbing.....isn't a big enough word to describe this. I certainly know her pain. I also know that this world in unequipped when it comes to rape and molestation, and it's a life sentence for the victim.

    The courage it takes to face this or even attempt to eradicate the haunting thoughts can be overwhelming

    Disturbing.....isn't a big enough word to describe this. I certainly know her pain. I also know that this world in unequipped when it comes to rape and molestation, and it's a life sentence for the victim.

    The courage it takes to face this or even attempt to eradicate the haunting thoughts can be overwhelming as it steals a part of the soul.

    I can't even describe the feelings when I see a Facebook post about a young girl who is missing and the family's plea to anyone that can help find her. And if she is found ohhh the relief we can all express but few will question what darkness her life may hold going forward.

    Perhaps some will view my next statement as political yet I'm outraged at how the

    whole world watched Christine Ford recite an event of her life and her feelings to a committee and yet a man now holds a prestigious position in the courts and decides the fate of others.

    Those same courts and politicians allowed the voices of numerous women to be silenced when accusations surfaced of the current #potus and his inappropriate behaviour.

    That's how this gets escused and judged as to the seriousness of the offence...as if it's just swept under the rug...forgiven because it can't or won't be proved, ignored because someone rich and powerful can buy or lie their way out of it.

    For the same reason I can't see this a good decision to allow assisted suicide as it doesnt get to the root of the problem.

    So we say RIP darling girl, for I know you struggled and that you'll meet the ghosts of those like you while the rest of us plague ourselves to find the solution so the suffering can end.

    #metoo

  • Bureaucracy maddening for those who support public healthcare. She might be alive.

  • So sad on so many levels. My heart breaks for Now that she felt that the only way for her to escape her pain was to die. Yes we cover it with flowery words and call it something not so stark but that is what happened to this sad child. What a slippery slope was created. People addicted to drugs, food

    So sad on so many levels. My heart breaks for Now that she felt that the only way for her to escape her pain was to die. Yes we cover it with flowery words and call it something not so stark but that is what happened to this sad child. What a slippery slope was created. People addicted to drugs, food, etc because of abuse suffered as a child, do we grant them their wish. Surely more could have been done for Noa. She was only 17.

  • I am totally against euthanasia. I read that in the Netherlands in 2017, over 5500 people chose euthanasia. Anyone over 12 years old can choose euthanasia. This is horrific! Once euthanasia was legalized there was a fear that people would opt to chose it. So glad that euthanasia is not legal in the UK

    I am totally against euthanasia. I read that in the Netherlands in 2017, over 5500 people chose euthanasia. Anyone over 12 years old can choose euthanasia. This is horrific! Once euthanasia was legalized there was a fear that people would opt to chose it. So glad that euthanasia is not legal in the UK even though people travel outside the UK to chose euthanasia. I am a Committed Christian and Euthanasia is against my beliefs.

    Ecclesiastes Ch 3 (KJV)

    3 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

    2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

    I do firmly believe in the above verse. God Bless!

  • I can’t even imagine the amount of pain that she must be experiencing to bring her up to this decision. I find it very morally complex her but I wish her peace in her final resting spot.

  • Euthanasia? Suicide?

    When someone really wants to die, why should anyone stand in their way?

    And before anyone starts ... wanting to die is not evidence of mental illness.

  • There are so many decisions that society seeks to give to young people (in the name of autonomy) that often seem to be a decision of what's easiest, rather than what is best. Of course, what is best is well worth arguing over.

  • Well, I ain't nearly *woke *enough to jump behind this in any way.

  • If we are to be honest with ourselves, our humanity, there’s really is no such thing as “unbearable”. This must be categorized as death by psychobabble. This child need not to have died.

  • Hope