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California city experiments with universal basic income

California city experiments with universal basic income

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  • These studies are fascinating and it seems very interesting that these income payments aren’t shown to decrease motivation to work.

    That said, I’m not convinced automation will lead to mass unemployment (technology has had a tendency to lead to more employment), and I’m also wary of how governments

    These studies are fascinating and it seems very interesting that these income payments aren’t shown to decrease motivation to work.

    That said, I’m not convinced automation will lead to mass unemployment (technology has had a tendency to lead to more employment), and I’m also wary of how governments will be able to afford these types of policies in the medium- to longer-term.

    What about better policies to help educate workers? The GI bill seemed, and still seems, to have a profound impact on veterans. Perhaps we could learn from that experience to help make workers more flexible and better prepared for a changing economy.

  • GREAT! What's assured, based on the results from the handful of other places who've experimented with UBI, is that the rightwing fear that people will stop working and become benefit scroungers is misplaced.

    But there isn't as yet huge benefits that couldn't be obtained by better people-focused policies

    GREAT! What's assured, based on the results from the handful of other places who've experimented with UBI, is that the rightwing fear that people will stop working and become benefit scroungers is misplaced.

    But there isn't as yet huge benefits that couldn't be obtained by better people-focused policies for example.

    Looking forward to the results of this UBI experiment though. If they aren't groundbreaking, perhaps instead of giving free money to people, people should be given free access to essential services like health, housing, education, etc. Now that would be revolutionary.

  • With Automation and A.I. breathing down our necks, we find ourselves in a bind. Already, the immense gains in productivity that working Americans have achieved since WW2 are stunning, but since the 1970s, nearly all of the monetary gain has skipped the workers and gone directly to the top. Not only have

    With Automation and A.I. breathing down our necks, we find ourselves in a bind. Already, the immense gains in productivity that working Americans have achieved since WW2 are stunning, but since the 1970s, nearly all of the monetary gain has skipped the workers and gone directly to the top. Not only have wages stagnated now for 35-40 years (and costs have multiplied!), we’ve had downsizing and layoffs and offshoring and cost-cutting and every other method of ‘efficiency’ with which the Capitalists have taken more and more, shortchanging not just workers, but also Government, our communities, our young people, their education, and our futures. Beyond that, the libertarian/republican crowd eviscerated what little welfare programs that originally attempted to battle poverty and made them the cruel joke of a fraying “safety net” that is punishing to deal with; it’s sadistic and dehumanizing.

    So it’s about time that the people should be treated fairly, and with dignity. In one of the richest nations on the planet, no one should have to be hungry or worry about their basic needs. This isn’t quite there yet, even at $1000/mo, but it would go quite a ways to smoothing out the many dips and potholes in our failing society. Hopefully this is just the beginning of movement toward a human-centric socialist society.

  • Universal Basic Income is an idea whose time may have finally come. If societies can find a way to make such schemes affordable then it is a straightforward way to combat inequality and poverty.

  • I hope we see a lot more of this. Read some Rutger Bregman to learn why it’s one of the keys to a better society.

  • Six grand a year is probably just the difference between minimum wage and a liveable income. The problem is that employers will now be getting a free ride with lower labor costs. We would better off pressuring employers to pay livable incomes. One answer might be an tax on employers to pay down the public

    Six grand a year is probably just the difference between minimum wage and a liveable income. The problem is that employers will now be getting a free ride with lower labor costs. We would better off pressuring employers to pay livable incomes. One answer might be an tax on employers to pay down the public expense of supporting the working poor. Society needs to realize that most poor people are not poor by choice.

  • Yeah keep the common people in their place right? It’s only universal for the working class. The Uber wealthy will still get richer. You’re a fool if think this changes anything. Think for yourself. Work hard and be and individual. It’s the greatest enemy of socialism.

  • This has been theorized for a while, and we need a city, county, or state to try it out, so we can learn how universal basic income would work. I’m fundamentally interested in the idea and am very curious about how this plays out.

  • $1,000 per month for everyone in the U.S. would cost $4 trillion per year. Understanding that this program wouldn't be sustainable doesn't even require economics, just arithmetic.

  • Okay so a four trillions$ annual cost actually 2.5 trillions, because at least one third will be taxed back in an economy of 20 trillions GDP,.. the growth of all that new spending will only grow the economy by who knows how much and people would have the where with all to choose something besides little

    Okay so a four trillions$ annual cost actually 2.5 trillions, because at least one third will be taxed back in an economy of 20 trillions GDP,.. the growth of all that new spending will only grow the economy by who knows how much and people would have the where with all to choose something besides little or nothing in too many cases. With automation aiming for every kind of job this might be the way to transition to the new economy coming. If left up to corporate greed to fix you may expect a very Dickensian world indeed

  • I wish Japan would adopt this, but chances are zero

  • Isn't this really an economic stimulus? Instead of tax cuts for the wealthy we activate all consumers. Sensible.

  • Just move to Venezuela then you don’t have to do any experiments.

  • Basic income has to come with a combination of budget and its necessity. Yes, the automation does decreases the number of blue collar jobs; however when this is still the minority, it is difficult to create national budget by increasing corporate tax (assuming corporates increase its productivity), for

    Basic income has to come with a combination of budget and its necessity. Yes, the automation does decreases the number of blue collar jobs; however when this is still the minority, it is difficult to create national budget by increasing corporate tax (assuming corporates increase its productivity), for example. It will come in the future for sure though.

  • I still believe UBI works and one way to be sucessful in deploying it is making companies to pay us for the data we share.

    People shares all kinds of data all the time. I am sure we can find a common ground between receiving a fair share payment that will allows to live with dignity and making companies

    I still believe UBI works and one way to be sucessful in deploying it is making companies to pay us for the data we share.

    People shares all kinds of data all the time. I am sure we can find a common ground between receiving a fair share payment that will allows to live with dignity and making companies still make a great profit turning our data into information they can sell.

    And people would still have a job (one of problems with standar UBI is the lack of a job).

    I personaly like this idea.

  • This is BIG. They better do it good since it will be the reference for those for it or against it. One year before elections is quite a smart move too.

  • Excited to see the results of this.

  • How can I downplay or express negative feelings toward what I think are crazy, unworkable proposals?