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Initiative to break California into 3 states to go on ballot

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An initiative that would divide California into three separate states qualified Tuesday to appear on the ballot in November's general electionRead full story

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  • This is essentially a VC’s fantasy come to life. Tim Draper wanted to split California into six states. That idea failed, so he came back with the three-state solution. It’s hard to believe this is about anything other than that Silicon Valley doesn’t want to pay taxes on the rest of the state, but whatever, it’s on the ballot.

    The bigger issue here is that this is one more example of centralized institutions coming under pressure. Scotland, Catalonia, the entire EU really and of course the U.K

    This is essentially a VC’s fantasy come to life. Tim Draper wanted to split California into six states. That idea failed, so he came back with the three-state solution. It’s hard to believe this is about anything other than that Silicon Valley doesn’t want to pay taxes on the rest of the state, but whatever, it’s on the ballot.

    The bigger issue here is that this is one more example of centralized institutions coming under pressure. Scotland, Catalonia, the entire EU really and of course the U.K.

    We have governments that really are not able to keep up with the shifting needs of their respective citizens, and the citizens are voting. Whether it’s right or wrong, smart or not isn’t really the issue. The issue is that it’s happening at all.

  • Krista  Amigone
    Krista Amigone Filmmaker & Writer

    We’re better together. I am very weary of this campaign and I’d want to see ALL backers of it. Especially foreign.

  • Ian Kumamoto
    Ian Kumamoto Student at New York University

    This is the typical discourse around sovereignty: uneven wealth, differing cultural identities, too big to manage. Even if a stable transition to separation is pulled off, the perception of instability can be enough to push business and investment away. The money will gladly go to other states like Arizona or Texas where land is much cheaper. This is a risky economic move.

  • This needs to be done for Texas. “Houston”, and “Not Houston”.

  • Jing Cao
    Jing CaoQuartz

    Okay serious question. If this actually happens, what does that do to the budding (heh heh) marijuana industry there? Because if California becomes 3 states, then any pot business would have to operate within each new California...crossing state lines would violate federal laws. Does this limit expansion potential for pot startups in CA? @Jenny Kaplan, weigh in on this!

    Also side note, Tim Draper is the VC who stripped on video to show how his firm, DFJ, promotes women entrepreneurs...and DFJ is

    Okay serious question. If this actually happens, what does that do to the budding (heh heh) marijuana industry there? Because if California becomes 3 states, then any pot business would have to operate within each new California...crossing state lines would violate federal laws. Does this limit expansion potential for pot startups in CA? @Jenny Kaplan, weigh in on this!

    Also side note, Tim Draper is the VC who stripped on video to show how his firm, DFJ, promotes women entrepreneurs...and DFJ is the firm where another founding partner held sex parties unveiled in Emily Chang’s Brotopia. Maybe suspect judgment.

  • Marcela  Sapone
    Marcela SaponeCo-Founder & CEO at Hello Alfred

    Fascinating - three states or one country ?

  • Julie Makinen
    Julie MakinenExecutive Editor at The Desert Sun

    Not gonna happen!

  • Brings to mind the verse from Steely Dan's song "My old School."..."California...tumble in to the sea, that'll be the day I go back to Annandale..."

  • devin Szell
    devin Szell Artist / Writer

    Just stop already.... Self serving, close minded, twisted interes conceptualization at its worst. If you have issues with your county or district or state, fix it. God damn. I should’ve got into politics... I’d have

  • I find it very I find it very interesting that legislation with such suggestions is even getting enough signatures to appear on a ballot. 1) There is no way that, in this era, this will actually receive a majority vote. 2) This piece of legislation is representative of the current American mindset that presents the smallest differences or smallest hurdles as reasons of division. There is no grounded sense of unity. In reality, California dividing would be much more difficult and inefficient than in its current state.

  • I thought this was a joke until I saw Tim Draper was behind it. I’d at least consider it as an option given that he’s a pretty smart guy that saw the crypto currency boom coming from a mile away. Interesting option for California.

  • I predict a solid yes majority vote!

  • Are we ready for 52 states in Congress? What will the effect of 104 senators be? An interesting place in time and history.

  • Each State has 2 Senators, which means California will get to put 6 Senators in office all by itself if considered 3 separate States. Politically I see a lot of pros and cons here, want to learn more about how this would affect them economically.

  • Harry Cassidy
    Harry Cassidy

    After reading many of the comments I’m a little taken aback by the lack of discussion as to how the rest of the country may react to this, after all they would get the final approval. I understand that the ‘citizens’ of California often forget that they are ‘residents’ in a much larger country but they are, and it still matters. So as a citizen of South Carolina my vote will be a loud no for an additional four Senators and Electoral College votes for the state of California, or whatever name you

    After reading many of the comments I’m a little taken aback by the lack of discussion as to how the rest of the country may react to this, after all they would get the final approval. I understand that the ‘citizens’ of California often forget that they are ‘residents’ in a much larger country but they are, and it still matters. So as a citizen of South Carolina my vote will be a loud no for an additional four Senators and Electoral College votes for the state of California, or whatever name you choose for it. Because naming it is something you’re allowed to do without the consent of the rest of us.

  • Shanell M
    Shanell M

    I find this really interesting. From what I’ve heard, California is already basically 3 states but I wonder how the separation will affect the state(s) on a governmental level, also will it change the dynamics of voting on a federal level? Kind of Interested in seeing how this plays out!

  • Tia Walsh
    Tia Walsh

    this seems like it will spilt the poor parts of California from the rich part of Cali. I don't see this passing just because it doesn't seem like a practical solution to the problems we have

  • Let's be real. This is Norcal-xit.

  • Dean Cross
    Dean Cross

    The result of entrenched politicians who ignore their constituents.

  • Nick Palmer
    Nick Palmersemi-retired

    i was kind of hoping for 49 states...not 52

  • James Bridge
    James Bridge

    Congress will never allow California to pick up four more senators. The statewide vote is meaningless.

  • Hank Arkin
    Hank Arkin

    The proposed state of Northern California will have Silicon Valley and will be economically prosperous. The proposed state of California will have Los Angeles and will struggle economically. The proposed state of Southern California will include Orange County and San Diego, thereby allowing for economic viability.

    The proposed state of California will be unable to sustain itself and will truly resemble Venezuela!

  • Julien Anaya
    Julien Anaya

    Regardless of politics, it's what's best for California.

  • San Jose Community
    San Jose CommunityPublication at SanJoseCommunity.com

    Is this a 3 way social urbanization split in CA?

  • Cahnen Carnagey
    Cahnen Carnagey

    I've been hoping this comes to a vote since I heard about it. I hope it passes and then being from WA State we can do the same and split Eastern Washington off from the bad politics of Olympia. I also think you only need a simple majority in Congress for approval.

  • Bobby Buckner
    Bobby Buckner

    Lan Pham, UK GDP is greater than California's. 2.619 to 2.448.

  • John Plodinec
    John PlodinecThought leader

    Interesting to think about what this might mean. One “progressive,” one moderate and one far right state?

  • Shelia David
    Shelia David

    wow

  • Mike Schultz
    Mike Schultz

    nutty California

  • Tizzi  Carbone
    Tizzi Carbone

    Shouldn’t we be looking for ways to unify each other more instead of dividing?

  • Dolly  Barker
    Dolly Barker

    This is a GOP gerrymandering tactic if ever I’ve seen one.

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