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A Stanford researcher says we shouldn’t start working full time until age 40

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  • Love this article. Our careers are marathons not sprints and our work needs change with different life stages. Smart employers help employees figure out what works right now and how to utilize their talents while also recognizing their needs outside of the job.

  • "Rather than a four-decade professional sprint that ends abruptly at 65, Carstensen argues, we should be planning for marathon careers that last longer but have more breaks along the way for learning, family needs, and obligations outside the workplace.

    We need a new model, Carstensen says of the current

    "Rather than a four-decade professional sprint that ends abruptly at 65, Carstensen argues, we should be planning for marathon careers that last longer but have more breaks along the way for learning, family needs, and obligations outside the workplace.

    We need a new model, Carstensen says of the current norms around career pacing".

    This is the first I've heard on this profoundly simple notion - O-M-G, mind blown! We're all so focused and anxious on how to forcefully and effectively make it all work. Instead, why not take the pressure off ourselves by changing the existing paradigm to accommodate life's natural timeline. Brilliant.

  • This is the kind of approach to problems I admire: clever ways to re-orient existing institutions for the lives we actually live. This makes so much sense! It’s a shame that it still seems so impossible...

  • An alternative restructuring would be simply to "allow" more acceptable breaks in career histories, regardless of when, depending on what people have going on in their lives. Some people start families young, some later...some have older parents, some younger...some have children, some don't...some have

    An alternative restructuring would be simply to "allow" more acceptable breaks in career histories, regardless of when, depending on what people have going on in their lives. Some people start families young, some later...some have older parents, some younger...some have children, some don't...some have career success early on, some don't. Regardless of when this sabbatical is needed, and for what reasons, taking time off shouldn't be at the risk of negatively affecting a person's future hireability. I think it is a mistake to assume that everyone will want to adopt the time frame suggested in this article, though I agree that this sort of change is desireable.

  • Terrible headline since it gets you thinking the article is crazy but the content is actually good to get you thinking about lifespans lasting longer than they used to. This can affect your financial planning, but also your career goals which this article gets you thinking about since you are more capable

    Terrible headline since it gets you thinking the article is crazy but the content is actually good to get you thinking about lifespans lasting longer than they used to. This can affect your financial planning, but also your career goals which this article gets you thinking about since you are more capable at a later age these days.

  • This article represents a utopia for the knowledge worker in a white collar job. Wonder how this works for low skill and blue collar?

  • I'm in the SF Bay Area with sons in their early 30s. They, and about half their friends, are doing just as this article suggests. However, this means that they have very low incomes, live an extremely frugal bohemian existence, and given the insane housing and rental prices, will not own homes for a

    I'm in the SF Bay Area with sons in their early 30s. They, and about half their friends, are doing just as this article suggests. However, this means that they have very low incomes, live an extremely frugal bohemian existence, and given the insane housing and rental prices, will not own homes for a long, long time. The other half of their friends are climbing the corporate ladder, making lots of money, and spending most of it on silly stuff like 'stuff', festivals and destination weddings.

    This is quickly creating a bifurcated social structure which is not healthy, in my judgement. I am worried that we are moving towards a two-tiered society.

  • I’m not sure that I would want to live “more lean years” in training/education that this theory puts forth. Raising children requires resources and you are best off having children during the normal child bearing decades. Kids are expensive and I prefer to provide the example of a strong work ethic

    I’m not sure that I would want to live “more lean years” in training/education that this theory puts forth. Raising children requires resources and you are best off having children during the normal child bearing decades. Kids are expensive and I prefer to provide the example of a strong work ethic. Sure it’s stressful, but that is life.

  • Rather than a four-decade professional sprint that ends abruptly at 65... we should be planning for marathon careers that last longer but have more breaks along the way for learning, family needs, and obligations outside the workplace.

  • I always thought it was absurd that an 18 year old should choose a major that dictates the rest of their life. When you’re 18 or 21, you don’t really know what’s out there and you don’t have all the information. This model would allow people to dabble and experience what they truly want to do before

    I always thought it was absurd that an 18 year old should choose a major that dictates the rest of their life. When you’re 18 or 21, you don’t really know what’s out there and you don’t have all the information. This model would allow people to dabble and experience what they truly want to do before committing to something at such an early age.

  • This model and just about any other model you can think of is the future of work. Work is shifting to a place of no rules. I’m not suggesting a lawless workplace. I’m suggesting that industry is moving toward a freelance model and, sooner or later, possibly kicking and screaming, all of us will work

    This model and just about any other model you can think of is the future of work. Work is shifting to a place of no rules. I’m not suggesting a lawless workplace. I’m suggesting that industry is moving toward a freelance model and, sooner or later, possibly kicking and screaming, all of us will work how and when we want. And this is better, far better for everyone/

  • This article again demonstrates academia's utopian views of life from inside their isolated safe havens of campus. Educators continue to demonize the honor of work as they push out their product - socialism loving, entitlement expecting, Bernie Sanders types.

    Beginning full time career work at 40 is

    This article again demonstrates academia's utopian views of life from inside their isolated safe havens of campus. Educators continue to demonize the honor of work as they push out their product - socialism loving, entitlement expecting, Bernie Sanders types.

    Beginning full time career work at 40 is laughable. Climbing the ladder of success begins with entry-level employment at youth to acquire the skills and experience to reach the top that most of us eye from bottom.

    66 should not be a work ending waypoint in life and none of these late starters that this "model" advocates will have sufficient financial resources saved to enjoy retirement.

    Remember Social Security was never intended to be a livable income. It still is a supplement to saved monies.

    Recently we read, right here, that a majority of millennials expect to be millionaires. Is this the new pathway to that?

  • For sure it would be extremely satisfying to be home with ones children and stopping work at 65 is not necessarily the right path for some. One needs a reason to get up in the morning. The question is how do the bills get paid until 40?

  • This does kind of support a gig economy as well as easing the load on blue collar jobs

  • I think "Outside activity" should be counted as what we call"full time".

    Work in Life.

    Let AI handle conventional work.

  • Seems wonderful 👏 very good idea 👍

  • I think that this is a good way to start considering things. Times are already changing enough as it is, so it would be good to have our mindsets evolve with them.

  • Interesting ideas