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Kira Bindrim is the host of the Quartz Obsession podcast. She is an executive editor who works on global newsroom coverage and email products. She is obsessed with reading and reality TV.

Annalisa Merelli is a senior reporter at Quartz, covering the intersection of inequality and healthcare. She is obsessed with plants, contemporary Indian fashion, and pointing out when you are wrong about anything Italian—especially food.

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Show notes

The history of pasta, including the debunked Marco Polo rumor

Pasta made in workshops in Sicily, 1200 (link in Italian)

Pasta made in Naples and Genoa to be stored and traded, 1600 (link in Italian)

1600, in Parma, making pasta of the “Genoa type” (link in Italian)

Two big technological moments—artificial drying (1914), continuous press (1933)

Nalis’ story on penne rigate vs penne lisce during the pandemic

Barilla commercial, kid rescues a kitten and gets home in time for pasta (1986)

Barilla commercial, girl puts fusilli in dad’s pocket (1988)

The availability of durum wheat and changing pasta prices

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Italian Music by Dar Golan

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