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Scott Nover is a tech reporter at Quartz and the host of season 5 of the Quartz Obsession podcast. He is obsessed with TikTok, fantasy football, and The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

Nate DiCamillo is an economics reporter at Quartz. He is obsessed with swimming, full employment, and big-picture industrial policy.

Show notes

The New Deal, a massive initiative by US president Franklin D. Roosevelt that, among other things, tackled finance reform

The “Al Gore invented the internet” controversy

Saule Omarova, a Beth and Marc Goldberg Professor of Law at Cornell Law School


The Quartz Obsession is produced by Rachel Ward, with additional support from executive editor Susan Howson and platform strategist Shivank Taksali. Our theme music is by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Suguira. This episode was recorded by Eric Wojahn at Solid Sound, in Ann Arbor, Michigan and at the G/O Media headquarters in New York.

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