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Scott Nover is a tech reporter at Quartz and the host of season 5 of the Quartz Obsession podcast. He is obsessed with TikTok, fantasy football, and The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

Sofia Lotto Persio is deputy breaking news editor at Quartz. She is obsessed with daylight savings time, RuPaul’s Drag Race, and the color lilac.

Show notes

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Sofia’s Mushroom Leather episode from season 4 of the Quartz Obsession podcast

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The Quartz Obsession is produced by Rachel Ward, with additional support from executive editor Susan Howson and platform strategist Shivank Taksali. Our theme music is by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Suguira. This episode was recorded by Eric Wojahn at Solid Sound, in Ann Arbor, Michigan and at Sofia’s home in London.

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