It’s not unusual for people to visit sites they know from movies, TV shows, books, or memes. Tourists strike their “American Gothic” pose in front of the Eldon, Iowa, house from Grant Wood’s famous painting. So many people flocked to the shore of Thailand’s Maya Bay after watching The Beach that the site became overcrowded and polluted. In Northern Ireland, official tours showcase places that appear in Game of Thrones, and South Korea’s tourism board highlights sites from popular dramas.

Tourists who visit these attractions view them through what scholars call a “mediatized gaze”–a way of seeing a place that’s been influenced by its depiction in some form of media. The mediatized gaze can change an otherwise unremarkable site into a must-see destination. It can make locals, not just visitors, think differently about a place.

One of the most famous examples of this phenomenon involves another set of stairs. In 1976, Rocky sparked a fan practice that turned the steps of the Philadelphia Museum of Art into a landmark now known as “the Rocky Steps.”

One set of stairs isn’t like the other

Beyond the fact that they’re both outdoor stairways that have become tourist destinations, the Rocky Steps and the Joker Stairs are more deeply intertwined.

The film’s director, Todd Phillips, has acknowledged that Joker pays homage to many movies from the 1970s and early 1980s. Its scenes, stylistic features, and characters include nods to films such as Taxi Driver, Network, and The King of Comedy.

Few critics, however, have made the connection to Rocky.

Each film tells the story of a down-and-out guy who, over the course of the movie, gradually finds his confidence. And each film uses an architecturally striking set of stairs to symbolize the protagonist’s development.

Rocky, the boxer played by Sylvester Stallone, initially struggles to run up the art museum steps; he’s out of shape and daunted by the prospect of training for the biggest boxing match of his life. Only after building up his physical strength and self-esteem does he bound up the steps, pump his fists, and soak in the view of the Philadelphia skyline.

In early scenes of Joker, Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck trudges up the long flight of stairs–a routine that underscores his sad existence. When he emerges as Joker, however, he navigates the stairs with eerie aplomb.

At the turning point in Rocky, though, Rocky ascends the stairs; Fleck, on the other hand, descends. For one character, it represents his heroic potential. For the other, it symbolizes his descent into infamy.

The Rocky Steps and the Joker Stairs are different in another important way. The Rocky Steps lead to the Philadelphia Museum of Art, a space designed for crowds and tourists and imbued with cultural power. The Joker Stairs are located in a more residential neighborhood that is poorer than other parts of the city.

In the film and through tourism, the Rocky Steps bring people into a space of privilege. They represent success and accomplishment, both for the fans who spring up the stairs and for a city that has benefited from their pop culture fame.

At the Joker Stairs, however, it’s the people with privilege who are more likely to descend on the neighborhood and its newly famous steps. They see and treat the site differently than locals who know the stairs as part of their commute, the place they used to skateboard, or where their parents told them not to walk after dark.

These differences contribute to the tension surrounding the Joker Stairs. While a tourist might be excited about the adventure of tapping into a piece of popular culture, a local might be wary about the attention from outsiders.

To truly understand what’s happening at the Joker Stairs, it’s important to think about the role they play–both in the film and in real life.

This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

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